Hi at everybody 

I am really interested to buy a VOODOO5 5000 AGP4X, where Can I to find it?
I know that on EBAY is very possible, but I am tired looking for it and I never I haven't see it!

p.d. If somebody want to sell it, please contact with me! 

Thanks a lot from SPAIN   8)
Oscar

From time to time an engineering sample pops up on ebay, the last one was a V5-5500 with DVI and AGP4x.
This was approx. a half year ago.
So you see you need patience...
Another chance is to read postings in 3dfx forums, if somebody want to sell parts of his collection.
This is how I got my V5-5000 AGP4x from Ireland...

hey osckhar, you're simply interested in special releases, aren't you? so you don't mind but the voodoo5 agp4x isn't really faster than the voodoo5 agp2x...mhm, who cares? what about the voodoo5 with vsa-101 chips & ddr-ram, isn't it also the agp4x release? or another side release?  

Even though this rare Voodoo5 5500 AGP is a AGP4X, is it likely that it will still have to run on a 3.3v Universal AGP Slot?

I can't see the card being one of the more up to date AGP4X 1.5v cards.

If it is a AGP4X 3.3v, you can forget having a new motherboard as the hightest to support the 3.3v Universal AGP Slot will be a KT333 chip-based motherboard.

On the other hand, if it is a 1.5v card, good luck to you and have fun upgrading! 

This has been explained countless times by hundreds of people over several 3dfx messageboards...

The Voodoo5 will not run at 4x AGP or even 2x AGP.  It won't happen.  The only advantage to a 1.5V/3.3V AGP Universal edge connection on such a card, is 1.5V slot compatibility for newer motherboards.  AGP texturing or not, it doesn't matter, the card is a PCI66 device.

In order to run dual or quad clocked it would need the AGP bridge controller that the V5 6000 has.  The lack of this is the very reason why 3dfx opted for the 3.3v PCB.  They knew the card wasn't true AGP and wouldn't run in 2x or 4x anyway.

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yep, but i bet even this card wasn't able to use agp texturing. it was more that kind of voodoo4-agp4x capability with -like beta said- a faster slot.

So what you're telling us beta, is that the V5 AGP is still just a V5 PCI adapted to fit an AGP slot? And that it doesn't take any advantage of the extra features of AGP like another AGP supported card would (e.g GeForce2 Pro DDR AGP 4X, mine  )?

Yep, all 3dfx AGP Cards would greatly benefit from AGP Texturing (just remember all the GTA3 problems due to the 16MB limit of a Voodoo3).

...and such Problems will just get worse, as the Banshee's and Voodoo3's 16MB are getting a severe Bottleneck more and more.

Anytime a Voodoo3/4/5 has to swap Textures via the classic, slow PCI variant (some Drivers contain this feature, but not all), the framerates take a massive dump (sheer unplayable), whereas 2x/4x AGP would allow direct access to the AGP Texure Memory (or permit direct Texture Manipulation) at higher speeds.

Even modern Cards can exceed their local Video Memory by a fair margin (e.g. high FSAA used in conjunction with large Texture amounts), and AGP Texturing just helps making the swapping at least as fast as possible.

That's still significantly slower than local Video RAM, but at least alot faster then via PCI66.

I'd say, 4x AGP in hard situations (e.g. 32MB total used, but only 16MB local Video RAM available) would make the difference between 0.5fps and ~10fps (depending on amount of Multitexturing, Bumpmapping or other Texture Manipulation involved).
Not much, but better than nothing.

In the past, 16 or 32MB local Video RAM was more than enough (and at the same time, 1x or even 2x/4x AGP was a practical joke due to insufficient System RAM bandwidth), but these times are about over