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Message started by Thandor on 01.09.05 at 21:02:29

Title: 3dfx Heatkiller
Post by Thandor on 01.09.05 at 21:02:29
I've a question about this watercooler :
  • Who made it ? (3dfx or 3rd party)
  • Is it common (I thought it is quite rare)
  • Does someone on this board own it ?
    And if so, could you take a photo of the bottom of the cooler ?. Thanks  ;)

    And also a picture of the 3dfx Heatkiller  :)

  • Title: Re: 3dfx Heatkiller
    Post by LuxKiller65 on 01.09.05 at 21:35:51
    Waouh I'd really like to have one!

    :o

    Never heard of...

    Title: Re: 3dfx Heatkiller
    Post by paulpsomiadis on 01.09.05 at 21:48:18
    It's for a V5500 I presume? ???

    Title: Re: 3dfx Heatkiller
    Post by Eye-Q on 01.09.05 at 21:52:19

    wrote on 01.09.05 at 21:02:29:
  • Who made it ? (3dfx or 3rd party)

  • The "heatkiller"-series is made by watercool, the company is AFAIK only at the german market.


    wrote on 01.09.05 at 21:02:29:
  • Is it common (I thought it is quite rare)

  • It is quite rare indeed because in 2000 the watercooling-thing was still in the fledgling stages so this cooler hasn't been sold in great numbers.


    wrote on 01.09.05 at 21:48:18:
    It's for a V5500 I presume? ???

    Yes, it was intended for a 5500 as the two heatsinks clearly show. ;)

    Title: Re: 3dfx Heatkiller
    Post by Thandor on 01.09.05 at 22:04:27
    Thanks Eye-Q  :)

    For the people who want to see a Heatkiller installed on a Voodoo 5 5500 AGP, follow this link  :)

    Title: Re: 3dfx Heatkiller
    Post by Obi-Wan_Kenobi on 02.09.05 at 01:39:24
    hmm it may look very impressive:


    But I don't think it's so usefull and worth givin it a go.
    3dfx forgot about the ram cooling, maube there is a Water cooling sollution to that also, I'm not sure though.

    Anybody else idea's on that?

    Title: Re: 3dfx Heatkiller
    Post by gdonovan on 02.09.05 at 01:50:02
    Opinion- From an engineering standpoint I would not have flow going from one chip to another. You are only taking heat collected from one chip and passing it over the other before heading to the heat exchanger.

    Better to have a "Y" block with equal coolant flow going to each chip and then from there two outlets running to your exchanger.

    Chances are neither here nor there as the limit of the boards is the ram speed rating not the VSA-100 chips typically.

    Looks nice though.



    Title: Re: 3dfx Heatkiller
    Post by BFG3dfx on 02.09.05 at 02:01:50
    anything made for the 3dfx cards i like

    Title: Re: 3dfx Heatkiller
    Post by Obi-Wan_Kenobi on 02.09.05 at 02:27:15
    yeah true Gary, so it's rather a pointless idea, but indeed BFG3dfx it does look nice :) I wonder how many of these things were made, or were they just some prototypes be'n made for testing?

    Title: Re: 3dfx Heatkiller
    Post by BFG3dfx on 02.09.05 at 03:11:55
    Really his set up is fine as long as he get ideal heat transfer, it really comes down to your fan/rad combo, i bet a 80mm fan/rad would be overkill as it is for those 2 vsa chips.
    water does not heat right up like air does(for disbilevers turn stove on and put hand down lol, now put a pot of water down and put hand in, if you ran a pump and rad/fan combo you could keep your hand in there for ever) so its easy to maintain a constant temp, the factors being,

    rad size
    fan size/amount
    speed of fluid
    fluid mixture
    total amount of fluid

    for me though i'd go with Gary's idea because i like to go big :P

    Title: Re: 3dfx Heatkiller
    Post by Obi-Wan_Kenobi on 02.09.05 at 03:15:40
    haha typical American , which is cool, American Cars are Huge also, sa a Chevy 3500 today, and man in Holland that is humungas ;)

    Title: Re: 3dfx Heatkiller
    Post by BFG3dfx on 02.09.05 at 03:35:28
    lol, yes i do believe we can get carried away lol, its fun to hear from so many ppl all over the world, im glad we have 3dfx in common

    Title: Re: 3dfx Heatkiller
    Post by gamma742 on 02.09.05 at 05:03:30
    Would be nice to set up something like that for my 6K in my Koolance case.

    Now that I've been properly train with Gary's 6K fan/heatsink removal training video :o

    Title: Re: 3dfx Heatkiller
    Post by BFG3dfx on 02.09.05 at 07:00:41
    lol gary looked like he was in a race ::) pop pop pop pop

    Title: Re: 3dfx Heatkiller
    Post by Eye-Q on 02.09.05 at 09:48:20

    wrote on 02.09.05 at 01:50:02:
    Opinion- From an engineering standpoint I would not have flow going from one chip to another. You are only taking heat collected from one chip and passing it over the other before heading to the heat exchanger.

    Better to have a "Y" block with equal coolant flow going to each chip and then from there two outlets running to your exchanger.

    As BFG3dfx stated: that's no problem because the temperature difference between the intake and the exhaust of that coolerunit is very small, I would say not more than 1°C.

    In a "normal" watercooling-setup the total amount of temperature difference is not more than 4-5°C, even if you cool CPU, northbridge and GPU. It's more a constant heating-up to a maximum watertemperature in front of the radiator because the relatively small amounts of heat compared to other watercooled devices like cars.

    Title: Re: 3dfx Heatkiller
    Post by Obi-Wan_Kenobi on 04.09.05 at 02:22:16

    wrote on 02.09.05 at 07:00:41:
    lol gary looked like he was in a race ::) pop pop pop pop



    yeah it sure looked like he was hehe, thank god that wasn;t a live sample of the 6K, I mean I livin one ;)

    I'm even way too chicken to do that to my Voodoo3's lol. ;D

    Title: Re: 3dfx Heatkiller
    Post by gdonovan on 04.09.05 at 02:45:40

    wrote on 04.09.05 at 02:22:16:
    yeah it sure looked like he was hehe, thank god that wasn;t a live sample of the 6K, I mean I livin one ;)


    So far perfect track record, no damaged boards.

    Actually I was in a race to keep it short as possible to keep the mpg size from getting to large.

    Title: Re: 3dfx Heatkiller
    Post by Obi-Wan_Kenobi on 04.09.05 at 02:48:37
    hahaha cool , well it looked very funny but quick indeedydo :)

    Title: Re: 3dfx Heatkiller
    Post by BFG3dfx on 04.09.05 at 08:30:43
    alot of ppl are too afraid to do it, it was nice to see in motion just how easy they can pop off, for me i really think any vsa card can be made better by poppin off that heat sink and putting down a better epoxy/silver or whatever, ive never seen such crapy glue, even the stock heatsink fan would work better

    Title: Re: 3dfx Heatkiller
    Post by Obi-Wan_Kenobi on 04.09.05 at 20:36:33
    Yeah I agree there BFG3dfx, must of been a very cheap and quick sollution to get the cards in the shelves alot quicker, they were delayed for some time, so 3dfx thought about the quickest and most lowcost way to cool thier cards, to get them on sale, anyway I thnik that that was thier stratergy.

    Title: Re: 3dfx Heatkiller
    Post by G1nX on 03.09.09 at 16:13:23
    It's an old thread I know but got a few details for those interested about alternative cooling for V5s.
    Two Watercool Heatkiller blocks with custom made plate for install on to a v5 5500. First of these was made in 2001. Only 3 were made.
    Here is how it looks like after so many years:
    Front
    http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/4595/heatkillerfront.th.jpg
    Back - while running with cleaning fluid.
    http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/5246/heatkillerback.th.jpg

    Title: Re: 3dfx Heatkiller
    Post by sb306 on 07.09.09 at 13:22:41
    wow. still looks good    ;)

    Title: Re: 3dfx Heatkiller
    Post by G1nX on 08.09.09 at 00:51:52
    Well yeah but I had to buff it out before taking that shot as to not have fingerprints or other residue.
    Here is a group photo of the water blocks i'd like to use for a AMD/3dfx powered H20 system.
    http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/5157/heatkillergroupphoto.th.jpg
    The problem I have is that the KT333 mainboards I have don't have enough clear space for the chipset waterblock to be installed.
    Anyone can recommend a socketA MB with caps well clear of the chipset?

    Title: Re: 3dfx Heatkiller
    Post by G1nX on 23.11.09 at 14:23:45
    Found something suitable to power the V5 watercooled.
    It's a Gigabyte GA-7DPXDWP AMD762
    http://img121.imageshack.us/img121/6163/img3348k.th.jpg

    Title: Re: 3dfx Heatkiller
    Post by goriath on 23.11.09 at 18:02:29
    Woot! AGP Pro Universal. Is it really universal (3,3V)?

    I see you can choose V5 5500 PCI also and power it up to full bus speed thanks to PCI-X slots!

    Very good find! ;)

    Title: Re: 3dfx Heatkiller
    Post by G1nX on 25.11.09 at 11:20:19

    goriath wrote on 23.11.09 at 18:02:29:
    Woot! AGP Pro Universal. Is it really universal (3,3V)?

    I see you can choose V5 5500 PCI also and power it up to full bus speed thanks to PCI-X slots!

    Very good find! ;)

    Thanks. Yeah it is universal and works with my V5 AGP with Heatkiller waterblock very well.
    The PCI-X slots are multipurpose for me where I can test the V5 PCI or add-in controllers SCSI, SATA...
    Still have to modify the case to house everything...


    Title: Re: 3dfx Heatkiller
    Post by paulpsomiadis on 25.11.09 at 21:29:41
    BTW - those are 64-bit PCI slots...NOT PCI-E/X... ::)

    Title: Re: 3dfx Heatkiller
    Post by G1nX on 25.11.09 at 22:03:10

    paulpsomiadis wrote on 25.11.09 at 21:29:41:
    BTW - those are 64-bit PCI slots...NOT PCI-E/X... ::)


    Well I think there was no confusion about that PCI 64-Bit/66Mhz is the base for PCI-X the term and specs can be seen here:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PCI-X

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