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Reply #105 - 28.06.04 at 18:24:12
 
I did Wink

What happens then, is that the V1.04.01b Driver freezes the Machine as soon as the Desktop is loaded.

The V1.04.00 already fails at startup, and leaves me with 640x480 16 Colors.

Haven't tried the V1.07.xx series Drivers, although it would be strange if these actually work.
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Reply #106 - 28.06.04 at 21:52:43
 
Now that we KNOW the cards are genuine, it would be a crying shame if the reason for the auction being "ended" early was that the seller TOTALLED a card just to take a picture of the GPU!!! Cry

Oh the humanity! Shocked
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Reply #107 - 28.06.04 at 22:22:46
 
i asked the seller the very first day of sale if he still had the hard drives that were in those cases, just in case he bought them complete, but never got an answer, you 2 might try him since you got the cards, that would give you a sure driver Roll Eyes
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Reply #108 - 28.06.04 at 22:51:57
 
I've EMailed him as well.

Certainly takes a while for him to answer, but well, he's handling hundreds of Auctions every day, so this is to be expected.

One detail I noted when I used the V1.04.01b Driver :
The Driver, although non-functional, correctly listed the Card as "3dfx Voodoo4-2 4200 PCI" in the Device Manager, while the V1.04.00 stated only "3dfx Voodoo series" (generic)

At least something Smiley
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Reply #109 - 28.06.04 at 23:32:56
 
So basicly you're saying that if a driver exists for that card, it will actually be newer than the latest official beta?

sweet Grin
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Reply #110 - 28.06.04 at 23:39:56
 
No sure there, it must at least be dated somewhere after the 1.04.00 (09 Nov 2000), which makes sense.
(the Voodoo4-2 4200 was just being produced exactly these days)

Since the Beta from 21 Nov 2000 does run the Card at least "partially" and seems to recognize it, there's a chance that it exists.

After all, I can't imagine IBM Systems being sold with defunc or non-existing Video Drivers.
However, maybe those actually were never sold, and were just waiting in some Stockpile for a long time (?)

Would explain the Card's Numbers never appear in the official IBM Parts Database... Maybe 3dfx never delivered the Driver they promised (?)

I'll give it a try with the latest 3dfx and x3dfx Drivers then, maybe it works.
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Reply #111 - 28.06.04 at 23:49:17
 
Lets all rejoice in a moment of prayer.. lol

Seriously though, if IBM does have a working driver for it - it makes you think what the heck were 3dfx upto before they went down..

maybe there are like 20 rampage cards rotting in some .com in redmond..

Guess we'll never know  Sad
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Reply #112 - 28.06.04 at 23:59:24
 
One thing that made me wonder :

The various latest 3dfx and x3dfx .inf Files state several "Napalm 2"  Boards as supported, yet those never have a PCI or AGP indicator (or other Data) next to them.

I think it might be a good Idea to read the PCI Register from the Voodoo4-2 Card; maybe I can match it with a known ASSY No. or a Device List (or feed google with the Results again)...
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Reply #113 - 29.06.04 at 01:24:01
 
Hmpf, I can't get the Card to run with any Driver...

3dfx VSA V1.04.00
fail

3dfx VSA V1.04.01b
fail

x3dfx Voodoo3 V1.08.03
fail

x3dfx VSA V1.08.03
fail


Analysis Programs say :

SiSoft Sandra 2002

OEM Device Name : 3dfx Interactive Inc. Unknown 000B
OEM Hardware ID : FUN_0, VEN_121A, DEV_000B, REV_01
Product Device Name : IBM Unknown (000B)
Product Hardware ID : VEN_1014, DEV_019B
Revision / Stepping : A / 2 (1)

Lavalys Everest V1.10.106

Display : VSA-200 (3dfx Shocked ???
GPU : (no Data available)

PCI Registers read :
VendorID : 121A (=3dfx)
ProductID : 000B (unknown)
SubVendorID : 1014 (=IBM)
SubProductID : 019B (unknown)
BS : 00
DV : 0C
FN : 00

For comparison a 3dfx Voodoo4 4500 32MB AGP (3700 Rev.A0)
PCI Registers read :
VendorID : 121A (=3dfx)
ProductID : 0009
SubVendorID : 121A (=original 3dfx)
SubProductID : 0004
BS : 01
DV : 00
FN : 00

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......a 3dfx VSA-200 *gasp* (?!)
Could it be that the AIDA successor falsely reports VSA-101 Daytona's as VSA-200 ?

One thing is for sure :
It is an IBM associated Card.
But apart from that, it raises more questions than ever...
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Reply #114 - 29.06.04 at 02:02:49
 
vsa200... that sure brings some old memories to life

i bet the reply from IBM will be very intresting  Grin
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Reply #115 - 29.06.04 at 09:03:21
 
AIDA32 does the same with my daytona, it reports it as VSA200 instead of VSA101.
The PCI product ID also fits ( 000B ) to a daytona.
What really bugs me is that the drivers are not working with your card, my daytona was recognized as Napalm2 even in WinXP, in Win98SE all drivers I tried worked flawlessly.
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Reply #116 - 29.06.04 at 11:54:44
 
HINT that this guy may have a LOT of these cards:Wink

On his current auction:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5105560183

"BULK &  DEALER SALE QUESTIONS ARE WELCOME." Grin
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Reply #117 - 29.06.04 at 12:04:23
 
That is posted next to all of his Aucitons (I think), more like a Standard Text.

But then, would be great to have more people being able to get one Smiley

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And no, I have no regrets Grin
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Reply #118 - 29.06.04 at 12:17:52
 
FalconFly, use the 1.07 driver! This work with my Daytona. The others will set Draminit to 0 and freeze PC on desktop.
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Re: IBM Voodoo 4 4200?
Reply #119 - 29.06.04 at 12:26:21
 
Hmm these cards could INDEED be VSA-200, as the ProductID seems to fit in the VSA-200 range! Grin

Check here: -

http://www.idhw.com/textual/chip/3dfx/pciid.html

The ProductID is higher than VSA-101, definately somewhere in the VSA-200 range! Cheesy

Also, it doesn't look like a 'standard' daytona concept card! Wink

Check here: -

http://tiger.towson.edu/~tzeger1/3dfx/products/daytona.html

So I'm betting on VSA-200! 8)

Anyone second my vote? ???
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