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fish Full Member Offline Posts: 183 Germany Gender:	Re: IBM Voodoo 4 4200? Reply #90 - 24.06.04 at 13:10:51 Yes, that's me.... so please don't tell me that you are 2000lfd
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gdonovan YaBB Administrator Offline Infernal Collector Posts: 2361	Re: IBM Voodoo 4 4200? Reply #91 - 24.06.04 at 13:50:13 Quote: Yes, that's me.... so please don't tell me that you are 2000lfd That would be me! I would have had that second card, I made it home 2 minutes to late to bid, arg!
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fish Full Member Offline Posts: 183 Germany Gender:	Re: IBM Voodoo 4 4200? Reply #92 - 24.06.04 at 14:22:32 So you got that VoodooMac 4500. I got the hope that nobody would recognize that auction.
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janskjaer Ex Member	Re: IBM Voodoo 4 4200? Reply #93 - 24.06.04 at 15:02:13 Glad I could bring two friends (3dfx rivals ) together! Just doing my part! Hehe!
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fish Full Member Offline Posts: 183 Germany Gender:	Re: IBM Voodoo 4 4200? Reply #94 - 24.06.04 at 15:14:04 Quote: Glad I could bring two friends (3dfx rivals ) together! Just doing my part! Hehe! Why did you think that I'm archon-online? And who are you on ebay?
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gdonovan YaBB Administrator Offline Infernal Collector Posts: 2361	Re: IBM Voodoo 4 4200? Reply #95 - 24.06.04 at 15:47:28 Quote: So you got that VoodooMac 4500. I got the hope that nobody would recognize that auction. I had my eye on that one from the moment it popped up Thought I had lucked out on a cheap find since every seemed to be ignoring it. lol.
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fish Full Member Offline Posts: 183 Germany Gender:	Re: IBM Voodoo 4 4200? Reply #96 - 24.06.04 at 15:51:47 Quote: I had my eye on that one from the moment it popped up Thought I had lucked out on a cheap find since every seemed to be ignoring it. lol. That's exactly what I thought, too.
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janskjaer Ex Member	Re: IBM Voodoo 4 4200? Reply #97 - 25.06.04 at 15:01:18 Oh dear (for FalconFly & Patiennce). There is another. http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5104750493 Those two earlier cards are now beginning to lose their value a little!
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Re: IBM Voodoo 4 4200?
Reply #98 - 25.06.04 at 15:29:09

I suspected as much- If this guy buys and sells corporate lots he may have as few as ten to as much as thousands. He did contact me after the first auction offering a second chance buy so right off the bat I knew there were 3 or more cards. I can't be the only buyer he hit up with a second chance.

Had it bookmarked since it popped up I'll be in Chicago when the auction ends but that's what laptops are for.

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FalconFly YaBB Administrator Offline 3dfx Archivist Posts: 2453 5335N 00745E Gender:	Re: IBM Voodoo 4 4200? Reply #99 - 25.06.04 at 16:06:51 Well, let's hope my Card's GPU does not look like the Image in the 3rd Auction. Whoever removed the Heatsink to snap the Image, certainly didn't treat the Card like a potential 300$-item
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Reply #100 - 28.06.04 at 09:55:39

Okidok, my Card arrived, and I'm definitely very happy with it Grin

Haven't got around to plug it in yet (arrived some 15 Minutes ago), but those are the numbers :

PCB Manufactured : 4600
Model No. : 210-0424-001-A1
Logo : 3dfx N1281
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2x HYUNDAI HY5DU663222 0035TA 6ns DDR RAM

Being manufactured between 06 and 12 Nov 2000 (and that's the PCB only, the final Card usually still takes a while to be complete and actually ship), makes this the latest 3dfx built Card I've ever seen.

Made in times of extreme financial and internal Problems, I can imagine they sold all they could, to everyone they could find. This might have been a small lot of Cards shipped to IBM, that remained in low numbers because 3dfx ceased to exist just 2 months later.

If you look at the Chip of the cancelled Auction, you'll see that even the GPU was produced in 4500, thus the entire Card was basically being completely fresh produced (and giving it a 99.99% Chance of indeed being a Daytona)

So in the End, it might be very useful to monitor the Seller's Auctions from time to time. My gut feeling tells me that not many of these Cards exist, and even fewer will make it to EBay.
(since the seller isn't a Newbie, everyone can be sure he's been looking for those Cards everywhere now, since he got and still can get alot of money for them)

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The Card Posts exactly like this :

Voodoo4-2 4200 Supported Bios - Version 1.05
Copyright (C) 1990-2000 Elpin Systems, Inc.
All Rights Reserved
3dfx Interactive, Inc.
Total DDR Video Memory Size: 16384k

Problem I have :
Neither the 3dfx V1.04.00, nor the V1.04.01b Drivers actually work with this Card...

Looks like it requires a special OEM Driver, which (looking at the unique PCB) sounds reasonable.

Note :
The Card's Heatsink (after 15 Minutes of 2D Operation) barely got warm, so I assume this is a VSA-101 ~143MHz Daytona.

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Reply #101 - 28.06.04 at 16:45:11

It's sounds good then that this may be it after all! Cheesy

And will probably go down in history as the most expensive 16mb retail graphics card ever! Wink

If this card was to be the next generation of the VSA chip series, how come it was only issued with 16Mb of memory?

Off-topic: Is this the same memory that is being used as on the Voodoo4?

Also, be sure to let us know the full low-down and give us an in-detail review of the card, including screenshots! Grin

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Reply #102 - 28.06.04 at 16:50:19

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Oops !
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5104750493
The seller ended this listing early because of an error in the listing.
or
Somebody made an "interesting" offer to the seller ??

Yeah, I offered him £0.10p for it, so he took it and we made a deal! Roll Eyes

AND THEN I WOKE UP AND ATE MY CORNFLAKES! Shocked

Does seem a bit strange to end it like this, however, why not just state that the [i]item is no longer available[/] instead of saying there is an error?

He probably likes to keep people guessing and build up the tension between all the bidders!

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Re: IBM Voodoo 4 4200?
Reply #103 - 28.06.04 at 16:52:10

Well, lacking any functional Drivers, I cannot do any Benchmarks for now.

(I've contacted IBM, let's see what they turn up).

Since this Card uses DDR-RAM, it is different from the normal Voodoo4's SD-RAM of course Wink

Once I get it fully up & running, I'll be sure to check it out in more Detail

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The only thing that I don't get smart about, is that this DDR-RAM (according to the POST screen) looks exactly like SG-RAM (?)

I'll check out the RAM Specs to make sure.
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Alright, it is DDR-RAM :
Hyundai Debuts DDR SDRAM

Hyundai Electronics America recently announced samples of its 2- M x 32 double data rate SDRAM. The HY5DU663222 is aimed at graphics, networking and consumer applications and operates at 143-, 166- and 183-MHz frequencies (to be announced soon). The 166 MHz speed offers 1.3 GBps bandwidth.

The DDR DRAM offers two data accesses per clock cycle with internal four-bank operation. It also features differential clock operation, programmable burst lengths of 2,4,8 or full page and auto precharge, auto refresh and self-refresh modes. It offers a VDD of 2.5 V, plus or minus 0.2 V, and a VDDQ of 2.5 V, plus or minus 0.2 V. Other features include a 16 ms, 2,048-cycle refresh or 15.6 us/row, 2.5 V inputs and outputs, byte write operation and support of CAS latency of 2 and 3.

Housed in a 100-pin QFP, the HY5DU663222 is sampling now with production volumes scheduled for later this quarter.

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Rolo01 Full Member Offline Posts: 191	Re: IBM Voodoo 4 4200? Reply #104 - 28.06.04 at 17:53:09 Falconfly, try to force the card to use a driver, even if windows says "This driver may not work. Continue anyway ?" or something similar. If it IS a VSA101, the drivers will work. Try the x3dfx 1.07.
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