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Title: Voodoo5 5500 Cooler - Another approach
Post by m14radu on 25.07.07 at 21:18:19

All the new graphics card have today an agressive and great look. The colling is more efficent too.
Why not to change the look of a voodoo5 5500 card ?

You will need for the start some paper ( later Plexiglas ), some 3dfx logos, 3dfx advertising, patience, and a lot of imagination. ;)

So that i obtain this "paper prototype" :

Top View !

The air should be taken from the case inside.

The blow holes...the air will be blast outside..something like the OTES sistem from ABIT cards...

After the model is choose the paper will be replaced with Plexiglas... some red LED can improve the optical effect.
With this big "case" the first PCI Slot will become unavailable.
In my Fotos the card has the original collers. But not for long time..... ;D

Regards.
Radu.

Title: Re: Voodoo5 5500 Cooler - Another approach
Post by exxe on 25.07.07 at 21:56:12

nice work

you should spin the Voodoo5 on the "power side" 180°
inside the case it have the right direction

Title: Re: Voodoo5 5500 Cooler - Another approach
Post by Tweakstone on 25.07.07 at 22:45:01

Awesome idea!!
I'm really curious about your progress with this project, keep us updated! :)

Title: Re: Voodoo5 5500 Cooler - Another approach
Post by paulpsomiadis on 26.07.07 at 05:11:48

The flat fan you have is no good! :-X

You will need a BLOWER fan if you are serious about this... ;)

...but I'm sure you knew that anyhow! ::)

Title: Re: Voodoo5 5500 Cooler - Another approach
Post by ps47 on 26.07.07 at 21:25:49

the concept looks AWESOME ;D

Title: Re: Voodoo5 5500 Cooler - Another approach
Post by NitroX infinity on 26.07.07 at 23:14:10

Air gets trapped at the blue swirls. Placing a curved corner there will ensure the air can get away far better; better cooling.

Title: Re: Voodoo5 5500 Cooler - Another approach
Post by m14radu on 27.07.07 at 07:40:10

I will improve the Cooler " Design " an post new pictures asap.
;)

I think about closing also the rear side of the card...the PCB behind the VSA Chips get's hot and an air flow in this area will "do the job".

What about a cooler for the Voodoo5 6000 ?
This will look really "BIG" ;D

Radu.

Title: Re: Voodoo5 5500 Cooler - Another approach
Post by m14radu on 28.07.07 at 09:54:13

updated.

Title: Re: Voodoo5 5500 Cooler - Another approach
Post by Komponent on 28.07.07 at 18:04:08

Very orriginal ideea of a modding job applied to an aging Voodoo5. I like it alot, Radu. I try to imagine how nice would the cooling system be, built in plastic with the 3DFX workart displayed. Do you plan to use a heatpipe cooler inside it?
Happy modding!

Title: Re: Voodoo5 5500 Cooler - Another approach
Post by m14radu on 28.07.07 at 18:21:50

Yes, i plan to use some cooper heatsinks, connected between with a heatpipe. My choosing possibilityes are limited because of the poor PC accesories Market here in Romania.
One big cooler should be enough to cool the card.

Title: Re: Voodoo5 5500 Cooler - Another approach
Post by exxe on 28.07.07 at 18:45:36

you can use voodoo3 3000 heatshinks

sorry for poor image quality

but you have to cut of 1cm of the heatsink or nned a Mainboard with no parts betwine AGP and 1st PCI slot
and bend the power plug of the rear chip fan near the bios)

Title: Re: Voodoo5 5500 Cooler - Another approach
Post by Tweakstone on 28.07.07 at 21:45:34

For best Cooling, you should use a radial fan like this:

http://www.tiger-electronics.de/KUeHLUNG-und-LUeFTER/DC-Kompaktluefter/Titan/Titan-Radial-Gehaeuseluefter-fuer-1-und-2-HE-Gehaeuse-TFD-B9733M12C::13494.html

The Problem will be, that either the whole thing would be either very high (2cm height of the card in the back + 3,3cm height of the fan) or very long (+ ~9cm) if you place it behind the PCB...

In this case, it'll be even longer than a V5-6k :D

There's a smaller radial fan http://www.tiger-electronics.de/KUeHLUNG-und-LUeFTER/DC-Kompaktluefter/Titan/Titan-Radial-Luefter-TFD-B6015M12C::64610.html which only has ~ 1,5cm height, but this would look less "massive" overall :(

Title: Re: Voodoo5 5500 Cooler - Another approach
Post by m14radu on 22.09.07 at 12:57:50

Found this fotos on the internet...

The nv5 Silencer seems to fit on the voodoo5 card. Just take a look at his size !

The only pat that need to be changed is the heatsink ( two instead of one piece ), and the NV5 silencer can be used then on a voodoo5 card.....
Let's call him them 3dfx silencer ;D

The cooler case can then later be customized with " of course " the voodoo eyes ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Voodoo5 5500 Cooler - Another approach
Post by gdonovan on 22.09.07 at 13:37:08

Might fit, the board in the picture does not look to be a V-5500, it has a AGPx8 cutout on the edge connector and dual DVI.

Edit- Sorry if I misunderstand your post, the picture makes it look like the silencer is on a 3dfx board.

Title: Re: Voodoo5 5500 Cooler - Another approach
Post by m14radu on 22.09.07 at 13:42:44

no, the coller in the picture is mounted on an nvidia card.
;)
there is no doubt about.

But, the size of an nvidia card and a v5 card seems to be the same.. so that i came to the ideaa to put on a 3dfx card a modified nvidia cooler.

Title: Re: Voodoo5 5500 Cooler - Another approach
Post by NitroX infinity on 22.09.07 at 15:57:50

The Geforce card only has one chip on it, the V5 two. I doubt it would cool the V5 properly.

Title: Re: Voodoo5 5500 Cooler - Another approach
Post by gdonovan on 22.09.07 at 16:04:51

A plate to connect the two might just work fine.

Title: Re: Voodoo5 5500 Cooler - Another approach
Post by m14radu on 22.09.07 at 16:07:35

IMHO if you put 2 cooper heatsink on each VSA chip, the big fan vrom NV5 Silencer should be enough to create a satisfing air flow !

Or even better, like gary sad - a plate to connect both heatsink will disipate better the heat..hm..when we use an heatpipe between both ..

It's just an ideea ;)
As long as i don't own such a cooler, it's hard to say the cooling eficiency .. but i will search for one ;D

Title: Re: Voodoo5 5500 Cooler - Another approach
Post by m14radu on 23.09.07 at 18:11:42

is the picture owner an falconfly member ?

Title: Re: Voodoo5 5500 Cooler - Another approach
Post by OutOfRange on 30.09.07 at 23:49:31

also cool: a 5500 with green anodized 3000 coolers :-*

http://www.3dfx.ch/gallery/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=26616&g2_serialNumber=1
http://www.3dfx.ch/gallery/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=26620&g2_serialNumber=1

and a rainbow colored computer ;D

http://www.3dfx.ch/gallery/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=26623&g2_serialNumber=1

norries, the 5500 has aditional fans in the case for cooling ;)

Title: Re: Voodoo5 5500 Cooler - Another approach
Post by NitroX infinity on 30.09.07 at 23:51:00

Where/how did you get those heatsinks anodized?

Title: Re: Voodoo5 5500 Cooler - Another approach
Post by OutOfRange on 30.09.07 at 23:54:02

wrote on 30.09.07 at 23:51:00:

Where/how did you get those heatsinks anodized?

friend of mine got a good friend in a company which is specialized in these things :)

Title: Re: Voodoo5 5500 Cooler - Another approach
Post by ps47 on 10.11.07 at 23:32:22

boo:

I think I'll attempt something similar myself :P

Title: Re: Voodoo5 5500 Cooler - Another approach
Post by paulpsomiadis on 11.11.07 at 00:11:36

Lookin' WIKKID @ps47! 8)

Title: Re: Voodoo5 5500 Cooler - Another approach
Post by m14radu on 11.11.07 at 06:08:50

YESSSS !

I love to see that !
You got the ideea PS47 !

BTW, maybe the case with the cooler should be bigger. Try one from the NV Silencer 5 or 6. They should be fit better.

Br.
Radu.

Title: Re: Voodoo5 5500 Cooler - Another approach
Post by Thandor on 11.11.07 at 15:17:21

Looks good!

Maybe it will look better if you put the picture only on top of the plastic cap. Like this:

Only images on top of the cap/board :).

Title: Re: Voodoo5 5500 Cooler - Another approach
Post by m14radu on 06.04.08 at 14:02:46

still working on it.

Title: Re: Voodoo5 5500 Cooler - Another approach
Post by paulpsomiadis on 07.04.08 at 01:45:00

...problem is that (with that design) the caps and coils on the card get in the way... :P

Oh well! :-/

Title: Re: Voodoo5 5500 Cooler - Another approach
Post by Kaitou on 22.05.08 at 09:04:47

gdonovan wrote on 22.09.07 at 13:37:08:

And the board is even blue. ^^

Title: Re: Voodoo5 5500 Cooler - Another approach
Post by Tweakstone on 26.07.08 at 18:34:50

I managed to mount a modified X1950pro Cooler on one of my 5500s :)

No I'll "just" have to have a decal or something to fit on it ;)

And of course a small 3dfx-decal for the fan..

The fan is from a OEM Geforce 6700XL (or what it was called) its much better than the original one :) I just have to test if it blows enough to cool the card @ 7V ;)

Title: Re: Voodoo5 5500 Cooler - Another approach
Post by m14radu on 26.07.08 at 19:03:53

Nice Work Tweakstone !

It looks perfect to me ! I'm impressed !

Did u modify also the cooper plate ? afaik the caps near to the VSA's are a problem, because they are higher than the VSA's.
How did u solve this problem ?
More pictures please ! :)

I'm allways happy to see that are still persons who are doing something for the 3dfx ! My compliments !

Again, nice work !
:)

Title: Re: Voodoo5 5500 Cooler - Another approach
Post by paulpsomiadis on 26.07.08 at 22:56:28

Cool! 8-)

Must have been a TIGHT squeeze with all those caps at the end of the V5500... :o

Title: Re: Voodoo5 5500 Cooler - Another approach
Post by Tweakstone on 27.07.08 at 00:14:08

Thanks guys :)
It was ALOT of work indeed :D
I had to drill holes for every single cap into the copper plate, as well as holes for the bios chip, and other components, which I can't name in english :D (you might look at your own 5500's to figure out which they might be ;) :D ). And that's one hell of some work already...
At first I put some termal grease on every "high" component, put the cooler onto the card and looked for marks on the underside. step by step I was able to drill the holes that way.

Then I drilled holes through the copper plate for the screwes that now fix it onto the card. The fan was replaced, because I think the current one has a bit more potential and looks cooler at the same time 8-) ;D

Because it was _a bit_ ( ;) ) tricky to finally mount the cooler onto the card (especially with the fan, which doesn't fit originally on the cooler and had to be perfectly centered - look at the pic, it's CLOSE to the plastik :D ), I might not remove it again too soon to take pics from the underside etc, please forgive me ::)

But I will take some other pics tomorrow or so and see what I can do with the decal work :)

Title: Re: Voodoo5 5500 Cooler - Another approach
Post by Tweakstone on 27.07.08 at 20:25:49

Title: Re: Voodoo5 5500 Cooler - Another approach
Post by m14radu on 08.08.08 at 20:41:29

Did u manage to test the board with the new cooler ?
The card cooling is better now ?

Please post some impression.

Title: Re: Voodoo5 5500 Cooler - Another approach
Post by paulpsomiadis on 09.08.08 at 03:34:17

You might want to give each component more room for maneuvering under the heatsink. ;)

If that copper shifts even 1mm near an electrical contact - ZAPP! BOOM! :o

The results would be VERY not good! :-/

BTW - once you have it fitting "perfect" (please take your time) then you can show us some pictures of it working with the new HSF. 8-)

Title: Re: Voodoo5 5500 Cooler - Another approach
Post by Tweakstone on 10.08.08 at 19:20:28

m14radu wrote on 08.08.08 at 20:41:29:

Did u manage to test the board with the new cooler ?
The card cooling is better now ?

Please post some impression.

The card is perfectly cool, but doesn't work under 3D anymore - I must have damaged it while working on it. I will purchase a new 5500 for the cooler sometime this year or so, I'm just not in a hurry about it atm ;)

@paul:
the cooler is perfectly tight on the board -> definitely no room for maneuvering, don't worry :)

When I
- have a new card
- have it working with the cooler
- have a nice decal or something on it
.. I wil post pics, do tests according temps etc, don't worry :)

But it'll take some time I fear, I don't have too much time for it atm and furthermore, the prices for 5500s a bit too high @ebay atm for my taste ::)

Title: Re: Voodoo5 5500 Cooler - Another approach
Post by m14radu on 10.08.08 at 20:09:57

Too bad that the card is not working in 3D anymore.
I recomand that you take the cooler down, and clear the card well.
That should help !

By doing this you can also made an copy of the cooper plate :)
I'm willing to do this mod too ;)

Title: Re: Voodoo5 5500 Cooler - Another approach
Post by paulpsomiadis on 10.08.08 at 20:29:04

Yeah, remove the cooler and clean the card with rubbing alcohol. :)

Then take some hires shots of the card and modded cooler. 8-)

This should let us modders try and duplicate your results. ;)

It might also let the electronics experts on the forum spot what is wrong with your V5500... 8-)

Title: Re: Voodoo5 5500 Cooler - Another approach
Post by MaxPain on 26.08.08 at 05:40:55

Me and a friend contemplated on what would work good for cooling a 5500 and I came up with laptop CPU heatsinks :) Heatpipped design and they are small shaped which generally fits the GPU nicely. And with all the different Laptops out there, there's no doubt you'll find one that will fit perfectly, or with only a bit of work.

I've been thinking of using 2 V3 heatsinks and making them actively cooled.