done by me... and still testing... the cpu should go up to 2600Mhz ;D

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=8198474

Darnit, I need to get myself an AMD Athlon64FX with a V5 5500 PCI :P

wrote on 23.10.04 at 13:17:08:

Darnit, I need to get myself an AMD Athlon64FX with a V5 5500 PCI :P

i got a A64 3800+ (as fast as FX-53) and got only 3000 points... but i put that V5 5500 PCI as a second card (first is my 6800Ultra) and used Win XP... should have used Win98 and no 6800Ultra....

Yeah but did you overclock your CPU and V5?

wrote on 23.10.04 at 14:03:47:

Yeah but did you overclock your CPU and V5?

no that didnt work! (perhaps it was only the second vga card in the sys and no OC tool did recognize it...)

but i will put in my first sys another hdd and install win98...

but now i will tweak my second sys... wanna have 2600Mhz   ;D

@TM30,

What was your LOD bias set at ?

where can i see this?

@TM30,

It's in the 3dfx tools, if you want to get the fastest speeds/fps out of the card set it to
+2, the negative side effect of doing this is that it makes the displayed graphics look very blurred.

ah i think it is set to 0

wrote on 23.10.04 at 21:32:08:

@TM30, It's in the 3dfx tools, if you want to get the fastest speeds/fps out of the card set it to - 2, the negative side effect of doing this is that it makes the displayed graphics look very blurred.

I think you meant +2 not -2 .

well the most wierdest thing ocured here too:

My score on my AThlonXP 2700+ with ASUS A7V333-R and 5500 AGP OS Win 98SE AM 2.9 V5@ 177Mhz cores/mem :

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=8014863

and my new score on my Athlon64 3200+ 1MB L2 with MSI MS-7030 K8N Neo Platinum nForce3 250Gb with a 5500 OS: Win2K Pro + SP4 AM 3.1 R1 PCI V5@ 188Mhz cores/mem  :-/

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=8200077

I suppose that the A64 isn't so good for Voodoo5 in 3D Mark. because in games it's way better that the XP 2700+ config.

3D Mark 2001 does not take much advantage from the increased L2 Cache of the Athlon64 1MB variant.

Since that AthlonXP 2700+ 256k L2 Cache are sufficient, it can win due to the higher clock speed of 2166MHz vs. 2000MHz of the Athlon64.

Other theory :
Since 3D Mark 2001 does not recognize the Athlon64 correctly, it may not use 3dNow! or SSE...
(unsure about that one, one would need to test it with the SIMD Extensions disabled to compare)

Falcon here is correct, 3dmark01 is very 'system-benchmark' oriented, it benefits from cpu speed more than anything.

proof of concept on a radeon 9700p;
http://www.lesters-communications.com/df/3dm05.JPG
http://www.lesters-communications.com/df/3dm03.JPG
http://www.lesters-communications.com/df/3dm01.JPG

id'e suggest that you overclock the A64 system to atleast match the AXP one, you should then see equal and/or better performance.

hmm okay, but OC'n the AXP 2700+  wouldn't be worth it i guess, my mainboard is an ASUS A7V333-R Rev 1.04. I hardly never OC my CPU's really, they are fast enough the way they are.

And A Barton 3000+, wouldn't that be my best CPU of Choice? Because that a Barton 3200+ has an 400Mhz FSB which might not cope on my ASUS A7V333-R Rev 1.04 Bios is 1017 BTW.

you'll need a lot of luck that your KT333 Board runs at 200FSB... and you need good RAM (PC3200... or good 2700 one...)

you could set the fsb to 166 and raise the multi... that would be an option

Litte refresh, cause someone wanted to kick me out of my throne  ;D 8)

3661 http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=8280914

How the Hell did you do that??

3744 http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=8281070

Pushed again  ;D

...just a strong CPU with high FSB and a good OC'ed Voodoo 5

Just imagine what a 128MB Voodoo 5 would do :P

wrote on 04.12.04 at 11:29:52:

Just imagine what a 128MB Voodoo 5 would do :P

yep... or a 6000 ...

or some VSA101... @210Mhz  ;D

hardly hittin 3800  8)

3796  

Nice achievement, congrats!

Makes me envious :) Maybe after new year i'll start an ultimate 5500 project... A pity that it can't be clocked over 220 MHz due to generator limitation, 'cos voltmodded waterchilled V5 with nice ram should go much-much higher... Tha only thing that frightens me is that I will need to search for KT333 mobo and work with Socket A platform once again...

yeah, but a voodoo @210 and an XP-M @3000Mhz (prommy cooled e.g.) would also go over 4000....

AGP is better than PCI... i tested a V5 5500 in my Athlon 64 PC... its slower than a AGP version in my second PC (XP@2438Mhz...)

you can look here:

http://service.futuremark.com/servlet/Index?pageid=/orb/projectsearch

dunno if you have to register, nevermind, its free. But first place with V4 4500 has 2214 3DMarks 2001 (default run, 1024x768 32bit)
--------------
out of competition: 3769 points (number one,regardless the resolution! he used 640x480 16bit, thats why he has so much points)

hmm my old score for 5500 any resolution is still in second (800x600 16bit) i was gonna set up my new system to go for first but i wanna set this new comp up for the v3500, ill have to see what it will do, by the way great thread  ::)

Finish finally reached... thanks V5 6000
compare url

what next?

5000? ;D ... well, only with an Aalchemy i think!



http://www.3dfx.ch/gallery/albums/album38/14_G.jpg  

Too bad you've only done the game tests. Would have been nice to compare the fill rates and all that other stuff.

It is a pitty that a V5 can't go higher than 220mhz, well the best way to get to 220mhz is too change the Ram chips on the card with faster ones offcourse, something that can be done quite easily (okay some skill is required ;)).

And with a high AGP clockspeed, V5 would be at it's maximum (TM30, you sad that 90mhz AGP was about the max for a V5 didn't you?).

Okay I am forgetting the nice project of DenisF the V5 with a total of 128mb. If only someone would know a solution for his problems :( (I still think it's a driver issue).

thandor, you should go for the v4 record, i threw in my v4L-card and got 3857 with a small o/c on the cpu, im sure 4000 could be had at the lowest resolution easy enough.

gave it a little bump before i had to goto work and got to 4021, all cpu but what really matters is in games the fastest cpu you can throw at the voodoo the more your fps will be in games and the longer your voodoo will have a useful life for gamming.

hey VDX did you manage 4021 point's with your Voodoo5 5500 AGP or 6000 AGP?

Naw just that v4L-card, i could go higher but i just have a stock heatsink on it right now, dont wanna burn this cpu out. really i just wanted to knock that other dude off the v4 anysetting record. On this test you can go for default settings or change them to lower resolutions, i did mine at lower resolution not the default that Tm30 has done which is harder.

@TM30,
What rev. bios are you utilizing in your 8k5a2? I have seen you can setting your XP-Mobile to 15x. I have 8k5a2+ and with my XP-Mobile 2500+ I can not setting it up of a multiplier bigger than 12.5x because the PC not recognizes the multipliers 13x, 14x and 15x. It boots automatically with a multiplier x5 or x5'5. I also have tried un BARTON 3000+ 200FSB unlocked and the same result.
How you can setting your XP-Mobile to 15x with that MotherBoard? I am surprised!

LET ME KNOW

Regards,
Oscar

i can select it in bios!

@TM30,
Have you done any  "Socket wire trick" ?
What rev bios are you utilizing in your EPOX board?

Regards,
Oscar

Quote:

@osckhar How it works on your motherboard I don't know. Which chipset does it have? .(Since the mobile 2500+ has a MP higher than 12,5x it does not need modification I think)

I have a EPOX 8K5A2+ chipset kt333 with a XP-Mobile 2500+ I just can setting it to 12'5x, multiplier more high is not possible and not recognized by the system. But Now with  a "Socket wire trick" I already can utilize his multiplier for default 14x, but not 15x. It is working 166x14=2324GHz
I don't know like TM30 can do it without any trick!

Regards,
Oscar

I don't know what bios TM30 is utilizing. Only there are 2 possibility:

2003-11-14 20031114  k5a23916.bin
2003-04-08 20030408  k5a23407.bin

I am utilizing the 20030408 and in both boards is the same bios. But the vers. 20031114 is not available for my board! Weird...

EDITED:
I was confused are different bios but with the same version and date.

Regards,
Oscar

@TM30,
Please, can you tell me what rev. bios are you utilizing in your 8k5a2?

Oscar

Perhaps TM30 used ChrystalCPUID or CPUMSR and changed the multiplier under Windows.

Quote:

Perhaps TM30 used ChrystalCPUID or CPUMSR and changed the multiplier under Windows.

Perhaps -Because I have tried different bios with the same Motherboard (8K5a2, 8k5a2+) and different XP-Mobile, Bartons and nothing. The multiplier not goes above 12.5x. For this reason I am very surprised with the result of TM30.

ps. I am waiting that TM30 gives to all us the solution!  ;)

Oscar

@TM30,
You are a 'gentelman'. Thank you very much by your AID! It has been wonderful. A month hoping your answer to my 'complicated' question, but don't worry, I already see as you are.