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Re: 3dfx "fan" topic
Reply #15 - 21.05.05 at 19:40:14

Back at that time their Display Card was the only thing they could (quickly) come up with.

Maybe 3dfx was seeking to make the Card look more authentic (after all, the Media wanted to see the V5-6000, so the Media had to be shown something cool)

Would be interesting to know if that Card shown in the Image is mine, or the 2nd Card known to exist (but unseen since 4 years)

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Reply #16 - 21.05.05 at 19:55:17

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Maybe 3dfx was seeking to make the Card look more authentic (after all, the Media wanted to see the V5-6000, so the Media had to be shown something cool)

Or maybe one of the 2 x 2 cards actually functioned, if only in 2D mode. After all the other multi VSA Comdex card the 5500 was a functioning unit (if at low 100 mhz speed)

I'll have to inquire.

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Reply #17 - 21.05.05 at 20:56:00

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Why have a heatsink at all is the question, it was suppose to be a non-functional display unit.

The Dual GF 6800 Ultra-card shown at CeBIT this year had no components at all, even DVI-connectors were missing (here is a picture of the card). I mean, that was a blank PCB with a coolerunit so it could be possible that the shown 6000 isn't functional at all.
In addition to that the card hasn't a connector for any additional power supply (neither internal nor external), therefore the card can't work in my opinion.

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Reply #18 - 21.05.05 at 21:01:56

Binary thinking- It works or it does not.

How do you know it wasn't operating on a single chip Wink

Personally if the Comdex board was mine I'd pop it in an old LX based system that is disposable (to be safe) along with a PCI based video card and fire the system up.

If the PCB is indeed blank with no interconnects nothing will happen anyway, and you could scan the PCI bus and see if a 3dfx board is present (121a = 3dfx)

If "121a VGA device" is present (assuming you were not using a 3dfx PCI card of course, I use an S3 board to avoid confusion) that would indicate the Comdex card was at least "live" and not a blank PCB.

Just idle thoughts.

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gdonovan YaBB Administrator Offline Infernal Collector Posts: 2361	Re: 3dfx "fan" topic Reply #19 - 21.05.05 at 23:03:23 Quote: Take a look at the AGP connector. Ahh, the only thing I did not look at, I think you are correct and of course the heatsink picture doesn't have enough detail to tell if the AGP has connections or not. Chances are it does not though as that would entail another PCB version with traces.
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Reply #20 - 22.05.05 at 00:07:29

These Display cards were 100.0% non-functional, no traces, just nice-looking PCB's with generic components soldered on them.

By that time, they had no idea yet how to integrate 4 VSA-100's onto one PCB.

The second one would place such a Card into the AGP slot and power-on, the Board and parts of the Display Card would likely short-circuit.

IMHO one could call these Display Cards "design studies" or mockups.

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Re: 3dfx "fan" topic
Reply #21 - 22.05.05 at 00:37:51

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By that time, they had no idea yet how to integrate 4 VSA-100's onto one PCB.

Not sure that is true since at the time the board was dated they had 5500's up and running and the Voodoo Volts test boards were dated 8 weeks before that.

I'd really like to know the story behind this PCB, it seems to be such a waste of manpower and money to throw together for a non-function display and it does have the early Voodoo Volts mini-molex spot too.

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The second one would place such a Card into the AGP slot and power-on, the Board and parts of the Display Card would likely short-circuit.

Well if the AGP connector traces go no where as it looks then nothing at all would happen on power up.

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Reply #22 - 22.05.05 at 00:42:31

well I got that pic from Rolo01 once from x3dfxzone.it here 9is the Topic where I got the first glance it that V45K 2x2 with Cooling:

http://www.3dfxzone.it/enboard/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=566&whichpage=2&SearchTerms=Vo...

it took me a few hours to find that thread, but I did it with pleasure ofcourse, thanx to my scouting techniques and the Force ofcourse 8)

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Reply #23 - 22.05.05 at 01:01:04

well we do realise that the Voodoo5 6000 AGP 128MB 2x2 cards don't function but they are extreemly rare so therefore thier expensitivity Wink

here that was first thought to be the Voodoo4 4500 at the Comdex 1999, well it is actually a Voodoo3 3500 from Compaq Wink

and yes it works and has traces.

But the Voodoo5 5500 AGP 64MB Rev.A0 4599 COmdex cards do have traces and they can very well function, here a good photo of one:

and here the Voodoo5 6000 AGP 128MB 2x2 41-4499 Rev.

dunno what happened to that Voodoo5 though nor that Voodoo3 3500 which was called Voodoo4 4500 at that time..

So I am thinking, what would of been the prototype fan layout's of the 5500 AGP and 4500 AGP ? would that have also been as beasty as the Voodoo5 6000 mega cooler?

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Re: 3dfx "fan" topic
Reply #24 - 22.05.05 at 01:18:03

I dunno let's hope it isn't destroyed, I hope you can get it Gary , I do have a feeling you will one day Wink

_{alittle off topic my lads!@ Thandor kom is online joh!}

No man, it's a Voodoo5 6000 2x2 card, the name Voodoo5 6500 is a hoax, never knew you would fall for that Lips Sealed

ohwell really it's a Voodoo5 6000 AGP 2x2 model 41-4499 Rev. Wink

Omega-Supreme FalconFly told me that and some other good fella's around here also.

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gdonovan YaBB Administrator Offline Infernal Collector Posts: 2361	Re: 3dfx "fan" topic Reply #25 - 22.05.05 at 01:50:05 Quote: I dunno let's hope it isn't destroyed, I hope you can get it Gary , I do have a feeling you will one day I'm very good at finding rare items but think even that one is beyond my ferreting skills my friend.
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Re: 3dfx "fan" topic
Reply #26 - 22.05.05 at 01:55:30

99% of my cards are being mounted on the wall in cases, i love having my cards, thats what colleting is all about, some do it for resale later, others just love what there collecting, same with cars,stamp or anything else, id gladly pay top dollar for that card to display it, and what is funny is i dont consider myself a collecter at all.

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Thandor Ex Member What's the fuzz all about?	Re: 3dfx "fan" topic Reply #27 - 22.05.05 at 01:55:43 Quote: I'm very good at finding rare items but think even that one is beyond my ferreting skills my friend. Well, maybe someday you'll find it Only time will tell... You have found a lot of uncommon things. Look at the first post of this topic. The huge fan
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Re: 3dfx "fan" topic
Reply #28 - 22.05.05 at 01:55:56

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I'm also aware of this. I was referring to people actually paying money for a card and knowing it is only a mock up. The only way I would buy one of these, if it became available, would be if I could resell it instantly to a collector for a good profit. There is no way I'd buy a non working card just to "have" it as part of a collection.

well I would hehe everyone has thier own opinions on forming and building up thier collections, ofcourse

there are 3dfx collectors and there are 3dfx collectors, but still there are differences.

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FalconFly YaBB Administrator Offline 3dfx Archivist Posts: 2453 5335N 00745E Gender:	Re: 3dfx "fan" topic Reply #29 - 22.05.05 at 01:58:52 See it that way : The Voodoo5 6000 2x2 Comdex Card is like what the Mauritius is for Stamp collectors. Although very old, already stamped and utterly useless for Postage, people pay Millions for it
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