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Reply #30 - 29.06.05 at 00:07:09
 
well it's free to dream, it would be possible though, the world may look small from a certain point of view, but's it's big enough to hide things Smiley

Let's hope for the good of things that the Velocity 200 box pic will surface one day Smiley
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Reply #31 - 29.06.05 at 04:44:41
 
and I can already have a picture in my mind who would be the first to obtain it,  Grin
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Re: hmm The Velocity 200 Box mystery.
Reply #32 - 15.07.05 at 15:40:29
 
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Let's hope for the good of things that the Velocity 200 box pic will surface one day Smiley


I was able to contact someone who would know beyond a doubt, the head of the marketing dept.

Here is what they said-

Gary: You were in marketing the 3dfx products?

Marketing: Yes, I managed the marketing department.

Gary: Know anything about the marketing of the Velocity 100/200 boards? The 100 had wide release but the 200 appears to have never been sold.

Marketing: You are correct, the 200 was never released.  There was a minimal amount produced but they were only used in house.

Gary: Yes, I have a few of the samples from the engineer who worked on a number of Voodoo 3 boards.

Gary: There is a guy in England who claims back in 2000 he saw them boxed in a store in the UK.

Marketing: I doubt that boxed versions were for sale in 2000.  All packaging was budgeted and approved by me and I never signed off on offical packaging for the 200.  But the board could have been a knock off with packaging good enough to fool someone.

...

Name withheld by request.

I'll see if they have any artwork or can point to someone who does.
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Reply #33 - 15.07.05 at 18:50:33
 
Thanks for sorting out Gary  Smiley

Maybe some of the boxed Velocity 200 slipped through and ended up in a shop.
Or someone made false Velocity 200 boxes or janskjaer dreamed about the Velocity 200 Wink
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Reply #34 - 15.07.05 at 18:56:29
 
well a knock off to fool someone heh who knows, oh well I learned that's it's free to have dreams Smiley
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Reply #35 - 15.07.05 at 19:12:26
 
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Thanks for sorting out Gary  Smiley

Maybe some of the boxed Velocity 200 slipped through and ended up in a shop.


Don't know about that, 3dfx sure didn't pay to have any Velocity 200 boxes made and only a limited number of engineering samples of the card were done.


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Reply #36 - 15.07.05 at 19:38:56
 
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Don't know about that, 3dfx sure didn't pay to have any Velocity 200 boxes made and only a limited number of engineering samples of the card were done.



Hmm, than it's rather unlikely that "boxed cards slipped through".

Then it must be either a fake retail card or a wonderful 3dfx dream  Wink
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Re: hmm The Velocity 200 Box mystery.
Reply #37 - 17.07.05 at 13:15:02
 
wonder what janksjaer think about this.

its of course more then convincing that the 200 velocity retail box did not exist
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Reply #38 - 17.07.05 at 13:38:52
 
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Then it must be either a fake retail card [...]  Wink

As a matter a fact, in the summer of 2001 in Romania were availabale for buying somme "vapor-ware" Voodoo 4's. I remember seeing on the computer parts offer of one's shop, for under 70$ the Voodoo 4 AGP with 16 Mb RAM, bulk (off course they were not retail boxed, but I'm preety sure that cards were not produced in 3DFX's Mexico factory   ??? ) ...
Unfortunately I don't know anyone who buyed that card to confirm if they were fake 3DFX one's (only VSA100 powered, but assembled on the open seas  Grin ) but that is what I think. Would it be impossible to be the case of the Velocity 200 also?
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Reply #39 - 17.07.05 at 15:41:04
 
Didn't realise people were still posting to this thread, so that's the reason for my delay in replying.

I can only suggest that 3dfx USA was seperated with 3dfx Europe over the Velocity 200.
After all, the majority of US based boards were produced in Mexico post-STB/3dfx merge era, and Europe's in Taiwan.

It can only be suggested that a number of Velocity 200's were produced in Europe and not the USA.  This is possible.

GAME are an official licensed UK market seller of PC and console games including console and PC hardware.  It would be illegal to falsely advertise or sell such items in their stores.  Roll Eyes

I spoke to the store manager who currently works there since the stores opening, AND the head of dispatch at Electronics Boutique, and they BOTH remember stocking the cards, where EB's shipment also got transferred to the GAME store.

EB showed me a back catalogue of orders under section 'IBMPC_STOCK_HRD', and under the listing is an order for a quantity of 10 items labelled '3DFXVC200_16M_AGP' and 15 items labelled '3DFXVC100_8M_AGP'.  However, there are no sale records so I cannot tell you how many were sold.

I asked for a photocopy of the order sheets so I could scan them and show you but as I'm not an employee, it's against their policies to outsource their companies market history as it could be advantageous to rival companies if in the wrong hands.  Wink

So there is proof, as well as what I have seen with my own eyes, as it is formally recorded within market documentation.

I rest my case.  Roll Eyes
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Reply #40 - 17.07.05 at 15:52:21
 
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As a matter a fact, in the summer of 2001 in Romania were availabale for buying somme "vapor-ware" Voodoo 4's.


There was a large number of Voodoo 4 sold outside of the US made by a number of different companies.
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Reply #41 - 17.07.05 at 15:59:38
 
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It can only be suggested that a number of Velocity 200's were produced in Europe and not the USA.  


Only problem is 3dfx no longer had cards made in TW, they purchased STB so they could have a plant remember?

Almost without exception all boards were made in the Mexico plant.

You need two things- Product and a box, people at 3dfx state that no V-200 boxes were signed off in the marketing budget and only sample cards for in-house use were made.

I place my trust with the head of marketing and other people who worked at 3dfx rather then some manager of a chain store who sells thousands of different products a year.

If you come up with an ad or documentaion, I'd be happy to pass it along. I have checked the EB sites via webarchive.org and they show nothing.

Heck even the main 3dfx site showed 5000 & 6000 boxes but no V-200 box.
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Reply #42 - 17.07.05 at 17:11:12
 
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There was a large number of Voodoo 4 sold outside of the US made by a number of different companies.

Were there so many Voodoo 4 of the only 16 MB RAM AGP variant (not the usual 32Mb) produced by third partyes? I guess that would be labeled Voodoo 4 4000 not 4500, but here they were advertised as 4500's with 16Mb video RAM. Seem like a non-sense for a serious OEM to do so ... To bad I canot track one to find out who produced them, but who knows, someday I might get lucky ...
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Reply #43 - 17.07.05 at 17:32:25
 
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I guess that would be labeled Voodoo 4 4000 not 4500, but here they were advertised as 4500's with 16Mb video RAM. Seem like a non-sense for a serious OEM to do so ...


I agree since with the addition of 32 bit 3D rendering 32 MB of ram is almost a requirement for any higher resolution to be run without massive data paging across the AGP bus.

That's why 16MB was fine for the Voodoo 3, even at the highest resolution there was enough for 16 bit rendering.

I'd really like to see if anyone made a Voodoo 4 with 16MB, that would be rather cool.
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Reply #44 - 17.07.05 at 19:18:13
 
After a bit of searching I found the following :
http://computer.zood.ru/zmain09/zh/z1390.html

A russian site which sells an Velocity 200. They also name it Voodoo 3 3000 but the picture doesn't show an 3dfx Voodoo 3 3000.
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