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Re: AAlchemy 8164
Reply #15 - 05.07.08 at 18:07:38

exxe wrote on 05.07.08 at 17:58:33:

the aalchemy only outputs in 3d mode

the AALchemy display properties are not at the place like the normal voodoo properties

go to advanced or how ever it colled in english windows versions

Yes in Windows 2000 you have to go to the advanced tab,

And you will have to swap monitors when running, AA5 only outputs in 3D.

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m14radu God Member Offline Take your chance ! Posts: 555 Timisoara, Romania Gender:	Re: AAlchemy 8164 Reply #16 - 05.07.08 at 19:48:22 in the advanced tab is no trace from AA5. SP4 is instaled. The VSA heatsink are not hot.... just a little bit warm.. can somebody measure the voltage on the 2.7V nuts on runing sistem ? on my card it's only 0.8V ( ??? ) on the 3.3V nuts i measurre approx.3V. see the measure points in the picture below ( picture from exxe ).
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Re: AAlchemy 8164
Reply #17 - 06.07.08 at 17:52:42

The card take a lot of power.
Right at the start, it's consumption is 4.5A. My Multimeter scale si max 10A, so that i don't have the right tools to measure the consumption under load

I take no risk.

After searching and searching, i rise the voltage on the 2.7 V line, and now the card is recognized into the display properties.
I believe that the 2.7V line supply the VSA cips.

I thought also that i have an 8164..because is written like that on the card..but it's a 8132.

The 2.7Volts wire get really hot !

I take every unnecessary component out of the system ( SB, DVD, 512mb ram, i replace the vga card and i reduce the CPU speed )

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exxe God Member Offline ^^ Posts: 1316 germany	Re: AAlchemy 8164 Reply #18 - 06.07.08 at 18:04:53 you have a x32 no memory on the VSA side and yes the 2,7 or 2,9 line is direkt Vcore for the chips first carda have 2,7 later ones have 2,9 dont know why
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gdonovan YaBB Administrator Offline Infernal Collector Posts: 2361	Re: AAlchemy 8164 Reply #19 - 06.07.08 at 19:03:14 A V5-6000 pulls 50 watts, figure 100 watts to be safe for AA5.
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ultima God Member Offline Always searching Posts: 880 The Netherlands Gender:	Re: AAlchemy 8164 Reply #20 - 06.07.08 at 22:29:21 yeah, but isn't the real problem that the 8164 gets it's power over the 2.7 line and the 6000 gets it through molex, which is 5?? By that I mean ofcourse the amount of Ampere can supply, would figure that 5V can supply higher.
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exxe God Member Offline ^^ Posts: 1316 germany	Re: AAlchemy 8164 Reply #21 - 06.07.08 at 22:42:38 v56k gets 12Volts and Volt x Ampere = Watt easy and simple
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m14radu God Member Offline Take your chance ! Posts: 555 Timisoara, Romania Gender:	Re: AAlchemy 8164 Reply #22 - 07.07.08 at 15:49:04 did somebody measure the voltages on an AA5 ? my display properties: when i push the "test " buton, there is an error message: file glide3xr.dll is missing...??? in the device manager i have 2 Quantum AA5 PCI devices....in reality there is only one....can somebody explain that ?
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gdonovan YaBB Administrator Offline Infernal Collector Posts: 2361	Re: AAlchemy 8164 Reply #23 - 08.07.08 at 02:58:21 m14radu wrote on 07.07.08 at 15:49:04: in the device manager i have 2 Quantum AA5 PCI devices....in reality there is only one....can somebody explain that ? Try uninstalling the drivers and card and reinstalling.
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gamma742 God Member Offline 3Dfx Gamer Posts: 1668 San Diego, CA USA Gender:	Re: AAlchemy 8164 Reply #24 - 22.07.08 at 06:28:53 WOW! It is an 8132SB Gary, do you have any of these? Mine are all 82XX cards and 84XX
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gdonovan YaBB Administrator Offline Infernal Collector Posts: 2361	Re: AAlchemy 8164 Reply #25 - 22.07.08 at 11:21:09 gamma742 wrote on 22.07.08 at 06:28:53: WOW! It is an 8132SB Gary, do you have any of these? Yes.
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Re: AAlchemy 8164
Reply #26 - 23.07.08 at 19:15:18

An AA5 3D graphics subsystem in all AAlchemy PC-IG systems and is available in two basic versions:

• Performance Trilinear (PT) Available
• No Performance Trilinear Available

Performance Trilinear is a special purpose hardware feature unique to Quantum3D’s AA5. PT can double the pixel fill-rate performance of your application when its feature set is enabled and you are rendering with 22-bpp color. This is possible because a PT enabled board can putput two pixels per clock instead of just one.

AA5 graphics boards manufactured after April 2001 are normally equipped with PT hardware. You can easily tell if your board is PT enabled or not. A PT enabled board is reported as a 82xxSB in the display property sheet where xx refers to the number of megabytes of memory found on the board (32 or 64). A board without PT is reported as 81xxDB in the display property sheet.

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Re: AAlchemy 8164
Reply #27 - 02.08.08 at 20:37:59

m14radu wrote on 04.07.08 at 21:56:45:

My AAalchemy 8164 was layng around from some good months, so i decided to start it !

Many thanks to Rolo for providing the card Wink

So have you made any progress since we heard from you last?

Several people have these cards but few have them working.

You would be quite the hero if you could get yours working without the
needed AV4 Power Supply. Might encourage other to do the same.
We are all behind you and anxiously await your final report...

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Re: AAlchemy 8164
Reply #28 - 02.08.08 at 21:08:13

Well, i stop the projekt because i don't have any kind of information regarding the voltage measurements .

Sad but true.

As soon as i will have these informations, i will be happy to continue.

( The same is happent with the V5 5500 AGP4x projekt. )

I spoke with Hiero about this projekt, and he will try to do it also.

So far, the card presence ( VSA's and Hint ) is shown into the Device manager, but i did not managed to start a 3d application.

@www.voodoo3dfx.com i start a similar topic. Unfortnately the page is not available since a Week !

Regards.
Radu.

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m14radu God Member Offline Take your chance ! Posts: 555 Timisoara, Romania Gender:	Re: AAlchemy 8164 Reply #29 - 24.08.08 at 08:24:45 I use Win 2000 Server. Could be that a reason why the card is not working in 3D ? Should i try Win 2000 Pro ? PS. With thin wires ( 0.35 qmm ), the VSA's are detected, when using bigger section ( 1 qmm ) , they are not available. Can somebody explain this behaviour ?
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