Hi Guys!

I have bought a MS 6168. I have several Adapters for Socket 370 to Slot 1 Support.

Is it possible to run a 1300MHz Celeron Tualatin on a standard board with a standard Bios with an adapter?

Would a test damage the board?

What modification would I need if not?

Which BIOSes are safe to flash on the Board?


greetings to my 3dfx colleagues!

I doubt that a BX440 can support a Tualatin, no matter what BIOS you use. The risk of damage is low, but I wouldn't take a chance if that was my only MSI 3dfx board. available. Short story - try to find another CPU.

I have it now running with a P2 333MHz and 256MB of RAM


but it doesn´t boot from cd or hdd...

Which mainboard-revision do you have?
Which BIOS-version is currently flashed?

Packard Bell AMI BIOS V1.4

Where on the board does it say which revision I have?

Once upon a time I recall seeing that an 800/256/100/1.65V [SL457] CPU was the max supported for that motherboard.  I could be wrong however. ( I can verify that cpu worked with my 6168 )

Does anyone have a manual pdf for the board?

Tritop wrote on 11.09.09 at 19:58:47:

Does anyone have a manual pdf for the board?

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=WHL6Q70W

T H A N K   Y O U   S O  M U C H !!

This is how I feel right now:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uTDafjfxu5c

*dance*


It seems that I am using ver 2.0

Shit

Do you also have the version 2.0 manual?

Sorry to bother you again.


Or does anyone else have it?


My problem is I don´t know where the HDD LED, PWR LED and RST SW PINs are.

http://common.packardbell.com/itemnr/spec_BoraPro/BoraProCnFrontpanel.gif

power switch is on pin 6-8 (FP BUT IN-GND),reset on 5-7 (GND-FP Reset),you will have to figure out the leds yourself.

RaverX wrote on 11.09.09 at 16:18:00:

I doubt that a BX440 can support a Tualatin, no matter what BIOS you use. The risk of damage is low, but I wouldn't take a chance if that was my only MSI 3dfx board. available. Short story - try to find another CPU.

\The BX chipset supports this cpu, see this old page-

http://www.geocities.com/_lunchbox/

There are sellers who have the Powerleap unit which is your best bet as it has the power regulator built in.\

Very interesting, I found another interesting and detalied review : http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/resurrection,573.html

How much cost a Powerleap ?

I am writing this right now from my Win98SE MS6168 System.


Atleast it is working now :D

Next: Faster CPU!!!

RaverX wrote on 11.09.09 at 23:13:51:

Very interesting, I found another interesting and detalied review : http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/resurrection,573.html How much cost a Powerleap ?

See Ebay, last time I looked there was a we listed for $50 shipped with 1.4 cpu

Is this the right one?

http://ebay.keeneyedeals.com/img/20090610/IMG_3695.JPG



I also upgraded the system:

Pentium 2 450MHz FSB100
256MB PC133

It is a huge difference compared to the 333MHz FSB66 !

But I get no sound.

I tried several soundblaster cards and the onboard. I don´t have the right drivers.

One time I installed everything correctly but I had to turn my speakers aaaall the way up to hear "a bit of noise/sound"

Very weak.

Right now I have a CT4810 Creative Card installed. I am trying to get the right drivers but I don´t even know the name of the model...

Ensoniq? SB16??

Tritop wrote on 12.09.09 at 23:27:58:

Is this the right one? http://ebay.keeneyedeals.com/img/20090610/IMG_3695.JPG

No, try this-

http://cgi.ebay.com/Powerleap-PL-iP3-T-Celeron1-4GHz-Slot1-upgrade-adapter_W0QQitemZ120466057167QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item1c0c5627cf&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14

http://cgi.ebay.com/Powerleap-1-4GHz-SL6C6-Celeron-slot-1-upgrade_W0QQitemZ350251556266QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item518c9e9daa&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14

The one with the power regulator is better, but the 1.4 Celeron is not that power hungry.

For a point of reference, the 1.4 Celeron uses as much power as a P3-600

33-34 watts.

Wow, that is pretty expensive...

So if I buy one of those, I have the complete set for "plug and play" ?


Does anyone have the right driver for the onboard sound of the motherboard?

Also I need the manual for the Version 2

Because I don´t know how to plug in HDD LED, PWR LED and stuff

Tritop wrote on 13.09.09 at 02:25:05:

Wow, that is pretty expensive... So if I buy one of those, I have the complete set for "plug and play" ?

$50 for the adapter with cpu and heatsink isn't bad.

I'm pretty sure I have the manual and driver.

Thanks,

I found this link:

http://support.packardbell.com/de/item/index.php?i=REFFIUP02610100&pi=platform_symphonyclub


And I downloaded the drivers there. No chance. Sound Driver is installed but I have to turn my speakers aaall the way up to hear the music playing. All of the settings in windows and creative driver panel are to the max.

Soundchip broken? I had the same issue with some soundcards also on the 6168.

I am about to test the Vibra16 ISA and then the Terratec Promedia. If both don´t work I will give up...  :(

I hope the board I get from ebay will work better. I don´t know what the problem is... I am writing this right now on the 6168 on Win98SE

A lot of boards with built in sound require speakers with an amp.

I'll try to review what I have in the morning.

That´s what I am so frustrated about.

My Speakers are expensive Quadral with built-in amp.

Hello @Kaitou!

!!WARNING!! - I would advise AGAINST flashing the BIOS, I once tried this and had to send my BIOS chip to Badflash.com to get it re-flashed!

I can ease your fears - as I've already tested the Powerleap PL-iP3-T...

The Powerleap PL-iP3-T works fine with a Tualatin Celeron, I tested it on my MSI-6168.

The only drawback is that you can ONLY run Win 9X operating systems - NOT Win 2K/ XP, etc...

Also, you "might" need to re-install after the CPU upgrade...

BTW the VER:2 mainboard (same one I have also) is actually an OEM board for Packard Bell only.

It's REAL name is the BORA PRO

http://www.uktsupport.co.uk/pb/mb/borapro.htm

Originally used in the Pulsar K450 v3 as seen HERE:

http://www.uktsupport.co.uk/pb/faq/model2.htm

The Spec page is HERE:

http://support.packardbell.com/it/item/index.php?i=spec_BoraPro&pi=platform_symphonyclub

Jumpers can be found HERE:

http://support.packardbell.com/it/item/index.php?i=instr_BoraPro_jumpers&pi=platform_symphonyclub

Actual function of ALL jumpers including unlabeled ones...

J17 = [above CPU slot] S-video / composite video out (requires MSI backplate)
SW1 = [next to BIOS] CPU Multiplier setting
JVSB1 = [next to J17] Keyboard +5V standby ON/OFF
JRMS1 = [white jumer under IDE slot] Soft OFF PSU
J16 = [Above ISA slot] Front / Rear USB enable swap
J12 = [next to PCI slot 1] Function unknown?
JCL/JCS = [above PC Speaker] Function unknown?
J14 = [Next to PCI slot 2] Clear BIOS password

Some of the above jumpers have the same pinout as THIS board:

http://stason.org/TULARC/pc/motherboards/M/MICRO-STAR-INTERNATIONAL-CO-LTD-Pentium-II-MS-6119.html

MSI TV OUT BRACKET - S-VIDEO - RCA COMPOSITE !!HURRY ENDS SOON!!

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&Item=250496587329&Category=115477&_trkparms=algo%3DLVI%26its%3DI%26otn%3D2

If anyone can discover the functions of J12 and JCL/JCS we would like to know..

But what about the sound problem?

Thank you for the link!

I bought one of the backplanes. Now I have one for each MS6168 :D

Maybe the reason why it is so quiet has something to do with the back connector? How do I plug in my Front Panel Speaker Out ?

I created a short, easy to print manual from my previous research in the last post... 8-)

http://www.sendspace.com/file/miabmq

Enjoy everyone! ;)

But what about the sound problem?

It is very frustrating to hear it only very quiet like whispering....   :'( :'(

I have it working now with the vibra16XV ISA

Not the best solution but I am hearing sound!!

Tritop wrote on 13.09.09 at 08:11:25:

But what about the sound problem? It is very frustrating to hear it only very quiet like whispering....   :'( :'( I have it working now with the vibra16XV ISA Not the best solution but I am hearing sound!!

I'll pull my system out today and check, wrong driver perhaps?

I guess so...

It used to be normal... I don´t know what happened...

I used the official Packard Bell Files...

I will check the other board which should arrive next week or so.

Right now I am installing the Hammerhead FX Pad...