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Title: Question regarding VSA board naming Post by gdonovan on 10.02.05 at 19:49:59
Known facts from unmodified boards
4200 = Single VSA-101 16 megs 4500 = Single VSA-100 32 megs 4800 = Single VSA-100 64 megs 5000 = Dual VSA-100 32 megs 5500 = Dual VSA-100 64 megs 6000 = Quad VSA-100 with 128 megs MAYBE FACTS V4-4000 VSA-100 16 megs Theory- So if a VSA-100 with 16 megs is a 4000 and a VSA-101 with 16 megs is a 4200 does that mean if a VSA-100 with 32 megs is a 4500 then a VSA-101 with 32 megs is a 4700? |
Title: Re: Question regarding VSA board naming Post by NitroX infinity on 10.02.05 at 19:52:27 Quote:
Should be: (Not too sure about the chip itself though) Quote:
There is no 'unmodified' 64MB single-chip Voodoo. And there's also a 4200 with 32 megs of ram. |
Title: Re: Question regarding VSA board naming Post by gdonovan on 10.02.05 at 20:03:15
See I stated unmodified because I have the suspicion that some of the prototype cards floating around have the wrong bios, or the wrongly labeled bios.
IE- They were using a bios that worked and changing the ID was the least of their concerns. I know for a fact a V4-4800 is indeed a 64MB VSA-100 and we know for a fact a 4200 is a 16MB Daytona. So.. I'm trying to figure out how 3dfx was naming the later cards and if they had a system (like quantum3d) based on card options or was it marketing based and random towards the end. Update- Board options and clock do play a roll- I just found mention of V4-4400 in some, err, documents that list a 4400 as a 143 mhz 4500. I'm going to dif around this file some more, since now I'm not sure about the 4800 (rolls eyes) Some stuff found- Daytona 4000 Napalm 4400 Daytona 4200 Voodoo5 5800 (short lived, support for 1 month) |
Title: Re: Question regarding VSA board naming Post by gdonovan on 11.02.05 at 15:49:34
Ok, this is what I have dug up.
V4-4400 is a 143 mhz single chip VSA-100 V4-4800 is a 166 mhz single chip VSA-100, the docs I have only list an AGP part, with or without DVI/TV options. What they don't list is the ram size, but they do show a 4500 with the same board options and speed. So logic would suggest that the only difference would be ram size, then *IF* that is true a 4800 is a single VSA-100 clocked at 166 mhz with 64 MB of ram. Thoughts? Still doesn't answer what a Daytona with 32 mb would be :-/ Though looking at one of the pictures above gives me another thought. The 4200 above is listed as a Voodoo4-2 4200, so if is a VSA-101 perhaps all that was done was to add a -2 to the part number? For example a V4-4500 with a Daytona chip would be a V4-2-4500? /scratches head. Were missing something, I think they were just slapping names on at random at some point, lol. |
Title: Re: Question regarding VSA board naming Post by Rolo01 on 11.02.05 at 16:07:04
My daytona is called V4-2 4800 AGP.
It has 32MB DDR memory and is clocked with 143 Mhz. I also know of a V4-2 4200 PCI with 32MB DDR. |
Title: Re: Question regarding VSA board naming Post by gdonovan on 11.02.05 at 16:32:54 wrote on 11.02.05 at 16:07:04:
Yes, the bios on mine lists the 101/32 MB card as a 4200, it is also clocked at 143. That's one of the reasons why I suspect someone at 3dfx flashed first and worried about the name later. If your trying to get a board working changing the name on boot up isn't a high concern. I think that is why some of the prototype boards have conflicting nomenclature. |
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